"I think today beautiful, which is always a tricky word, but now it’s become an incendiary word, because in many ways today beauty is obsolete and not the main concern of art. And you can’t prove beauty, it’s there as a fact.. and you know it, and you feel it, and it’s real. But you can’t say to somebody.. this has it. I might be able to say it and others might recognize it. But it gives no specific message, other than itself, which in turn should be able to move you in to some sort of truth and insight, and something beyond art. I mean initially it’s pleasure that grows. But it isn’t just the shock of a message that you can have and dismiss. Once you’ve had it, it’s over."